World From Berlin: Italy's 'Childlike Refusal to Acknowledge Reality'

[sysop]

The Italian election, in which more than half of voters backed two comedians in the form of Silvio Berlusconi and Beppe Grillo, shows Italians are unable or unwilling to grasp the depth of their economic plight, argue German media commentators. The ungovernable nation poses a major risk to the euro zone.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-885616.html

[kavadias]

German media always address European and euro issues wearing the shoes of "the favorite child of the markets". This is biased, simpleminded, and undemocratic, not to mention immature!

They call all opinions non-favorable to monetarism and market-bank establishment, radical or populist. They obsess with Monti's number-loving blindness and call it "serious politics".

Germany cannot have the euro of its own preference. The euro will have to depreciate.

...and those editors and journalists are writing as ignorance-unaware experts! Like economics nobel laureates! Get a grip!

[livinginitaly]

It amazes me how you still can't understand Italy and the Italians. You keep laying the blame of Italy's problems at Berlusconi's feet. Italy's problems go way back, at least 30 years. I can't stand Berlusconi myself, but you have to be blind or terribly biased if you can't see that every government in the last 30 years is responsible for the mess we are in. You also say that Monti did well, that he made Italy tighten it's belt through austerity. The truth is, he didn't. All he did was raise taxes without touching public spending. Austerity for the private sector alone and no belt tightening at all for the public sector. Reforms? Where were Monti's reforms? Who saw any? The labour market is still in a straitjacket, pension reform was insufficient and nothing has been liberalized or privatized. Bureaucracy is as insane as ever and nothing has been done to solve Italy's problems. The German Press was praising Bersani and his party saying that a victory of the PD would be a good thing for Italy. Didn't the MPS scandal tell you something? They are as corrupt as all the other main parties and they would have chosen higher taxes over reforms to avoid loosing their voters and getting into a fight with the unions. Open your eyes and try seeing the truth!

[willer48]

Originally Posted by kavadias

German media always address European and euro issues wearing the shoes of "the favorite child of the markets". This is biased, simpleminded, and undemocratic, not to mention immature!

They call all opinions non-favorable to monetarism and market-bank establishment, radical or populist. They obsess with Monti's number-loving blindness and call it "serious politics".

Germany cannot have the euro of its own preference. The euro will have to depreciate.

...and those editors and journalists are writing as ignorance-unaware experts! Like economics nobel laureates! Get a grip!

Enough is enough and we pretend respect! There is no way and no sense to be part of this Eirope which belongs to bankers rather than people! The earlier we leave Euro the better for all of us!

[willer48]

Thanks to God, we fucked Mr. Monti, the Merkel's puppet. I therefore understand and appreciate your concerns and I am pleased to confirm you that Italy is here again! Like in the World Cup Final, just to beat you Germany. Keep calm and respect us, you have no title to come into our house without invitation and then call, legally and democratically elected peole, clowns. Italy is not Greece and we won't go where they are now. Sorry for you, but you will lose this disgusting financial war, just as it happened for the World War II. We are the country of Dante,Michelangelo, Leonardo, Raffaello, just to mention the very few of the greatest geniuses of any time in the word. All these born in Italy. Have you ever wondered why!? You are battles winners and wars losers, by tradition...and you will always lose with us. We got enough of you and your Euro. Soon, we'll be free again. Cheers. Carlo, a pride Italian!

[aphex69@gmail.com]

Please dear Spiegel On Line,
you have to aknoledge the reality and above all you are invited to respect us: italian people has expressed a clear and definitive "NO" to Monti and BCE technical Government. Press, Media and classic politician has worked hard to mantain ordinary rules. Spontaneus associations and new political list has not the time and above all the means to be known in time. We are attempting to change the rules that want us as servants... and which are destroying our productive core.
Hope you understand.
Sincerely, Mr. Pietro Santoro

[aphex69@gmail.com]

Italy's 'Childlike Refusal to Acknowledge Reality': YES, you are right!
I agree with you, we are alike the "children" who refuse to aknowledge reality: THERE IS NO DEMOCRATICAL CHOICE EXCEPT A TECHNICAL FINANCIAL GOVERNMENT.
Italian people has said CLEARLY NO, whatever the cost!

All European Nations have the same problem: if you need 1 Euro from BCE to live, you have to pay an interest rate on it giving suitable guarantees for the future in order to pay it. First of all you have to counterbalance every 1 additional Euro spent with 1 additional Euro of taxation.

The difference between Germany and Italy is only you are still richer and stronger than us... but you are ruined in the future alike us, Spain or Greece.
Please wait your turn and respect italian vote.

Perhaps I'm a child... but I still hope in an Europe of peoples, and not servant of financial speculative Bank's.

Your Sincerely.
Mr. Pietro Santoro