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Old 11.02.2013, 14:43   #1
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Default Patience Runs Out: EU To Crack Down on Israeli Settlement Products

Israeli settlers living in the Palestinian terroritories often deceptively give their products a "Made in Israel" label. The European Union wants to move soon to end the practice and appears to be set on a collision course with the country.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-882623.html
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Old 11.02.2013, 21:28   #2
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What year is it in Germany today? 1937.

Your article "EU to crack down" is not a news story but anti-Semitic propaganda.

"Occupied territories?" There is no such thing. You are referring to disputed territories. These were liberated from an illegal Jordanian occupation in 1967. You cannot "occupy" what never belonged to anyone.

Israeli settlers are there under Article 80 of the United Nations Charter. This recognizes the validity of the Balfour Declaration which states: "Jew have a right to live anywhere in Palestine."

Article 80 is international law. Our PM doesn't respect international law? That is an anti-Semitic slur because it is an outright lie. Those who don't respect the UN Charter are the ones in violation of international law.

As for the Golan Heights, Syria launched two invasions from there and the land was seized as a security measure. They have as much chance of getting it back as Germany has of getting East Prussia back. You pay for making aggressive wars.
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Old 12.02.2013, 02:22   #3
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Doesn't the EU have something better to do to occupy itself that alienate Israel? Last I looked, they're listed as allies.
If they were the only country guilty of misleading labelling then maybe there'd be a point to it, except that during the middle of an internal horsemeat bunfight it's a ludicrous assertion.
When in a glass house etc., Better something honestly produced by Israelis than the incredibly complex marketing tricks found within the EU(maybe)which is obviously intended to obscure what it is and where it came from.
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Old 12.02.2013, 22:38   #4
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Default Proper Labeling of Products from Palestinian Territories

It appears that the old shell game is being offered, to muddle and avoid EU laws and regulations. If milk tainted with toxic chemicals is labeled with a wrong source location, how can this unhealthy practice be dealt with or investigated? Enough, lets deal with the exact place of origin and stop wasting time and money in a useless exercise of playing to Israeli politics. If any item or product is produced in the occupied territories then those trying to sell said item know exactly what source area should be listed. Any products already known to be mislabeled should be taken off the market and withdrawn from sale till the correct place of origin is properly shown. It really can get that simple if the will to act is there.
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Old 11.05.2013, 18:46   #5
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If you read the article of which I give the link, you can see that years ago Rothschild had bought large pieces of the Golan and some of his bought land is in Syrie itself.

http://www.mail-archive.com/public-l.../msg00853.html

"Israel has legal title over a large chunk of the Golan Heights and Western Syria.
In the 1890s, Baron Rothschild purchased 20,000 acres of Syrian land owned by the Ottoman empire. In 1942, the Syrian government illegally confiscated the land. The Baron transferred the deeds to the Jewish National
Fund (JNF) in 1957."
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Old 12.05.2013, 06:13   #6
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It appears that the old shell game is being offered, to muddle and avoid EU laws and regulations. If milk tainted with toxic chemicals is labeled with a wrong source location, how can this unhealthy practice be dealt with or investigated? Enough, lets deal with the exact place of origin and stop wasting time and money in a useless exercise of playing to Israeli politics. If any item or product is produced in the occupied territories then those trying to sell said item know exactly what source area should be listed. Any products already known to be mislabeled should be taken off the market and withdrawn from sale till the correct place of origin is properly shown. It really can get that simple if the will to act is there.
Your main fear seems to be to origin of products in case of toxic chemicals and such things. Your fear is baseless. Quoting from the article: "The label says it is a 2008 "Gamla" Cabernet Sauvignon, "Produced & Bottled by Golan Heights Winery." The address provided is "12900 Katzrin, Israel.". Therefore, finding the exact location were it was made is very easy. The products are clearly labeled by who ever manufactured them. It can be easily be traced to the exact location where it was manufactured. Like most products in the world the owners of those products want to make a name for themselves and are proud in their products and clearly label them. The so called "problem" is that they also labeling them as manufactured in Israel. That is because we live in Israel and Israel's lands includes the West Bank and the Golan heights. Therefore, this is a pure political matter. For you is an argue of whether West Bank and Golan is part of Israel or not. For us it's the matter of people leaving far a way from Israel, not really understanding the hard issues we have here, yet believing they have the right to undermine our legitimate rights in our own country.
Until you have a through understanding of what is really going in Israel I suggest you stick to what you know. Stop using a lame excuses in order to demand a political decision.
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