Blurring Boundaries: Hungarian Leader Adopts Policies of Far-Right

[sysop]

Internationally, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán likes to present himself as a champion of democracy. At home, though, he is implementing one policy after the other that is inspired by the right-wing extremist Jobbik party. Too often, Brussels downplays the problem.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-880590.html

[Olivier Braun]

Dear Sir,

Your paper, "Blurring Boundaries: Hungarian Leader Adopts Policies of Far-Right" is utterly misleading, not to say deceptive. If the Jobbik is clearly an extremist party, it has nothing to do with prime minister Orban's party. None of the examples of Jobbik's policies supposedly adopted by the Fidesz, indicate that the Fidesz is extremist.

First, it is disturbing that to illustrate the government's policies, you offer the reader a picture of fanatical Jobbik members looking like a German nazi milicia.

If you read closely the examples you give, you are portraying benign acts or policies as far-right, and you deliberately mislead the reader implying that some comments on 'unpatriotic' authors suggest that Orban wants to deport them. In the sentence "Ádám Medveczky, a member of the pro-government Hungarian Academy of Fine Arts (MMA), recently called for something akin to an intellectual expatriation of the writers György Konrád, Péter Esterházy and Imre Kertész", you fail to point out the word "intellectual" before the word "expatriation". Surely you favor free speech and the right for people to criticize. Surely the government has the right or even the duty, not to extract tax-payer's money to subsidize an author, especially if he is insulting you.

Hungary suffered as you mentioned, a loss of two-third of the country with the Trianon treaty, and many Hungarians had to live under a foreign rule. How could you convey the idea to your readers that to create a day of national unity is extremist and dangerous ? What about the Palestinians who still long for their lost farms in Israël ?

Don't you think that the communists were criminals, and that it is right to pull down their statues ? And I guess you don't know much about Horthy who was no Hitler and who had to rule Hungary after a civil war before having no real choice than to support victorious Germany. He was no nazi but certainly loved his country and strove to make a deal with Romania to repair an injustice. That said, I wouldn't favor erecting a statue of him, but it is relatively benign.

I am French and can assure you that we have some pre-war anti-semitics who are considered to be great writers (e.g., Celine) and are widely published and read by well-meaning leflists. Actually quite a lot of anti-semitics were from the left (as was Hitler). Don't convey the idea that those authors are in the curriculum because they were anti-semitics. Alas anti-semitism was quite a plague at that time, and I am afraid it has revived under the disguise of anti-Israel, and is strong among Muslims in France.

You mention that a kind of work is demanded from members of the Roma people to receive welfare. I am afraid you don't know Hungary and that the behavior of a number of the Roma people is a real trouble (as it is in France and maybe others European countries) and that the government has the duty to spend the tax-payer's money carefully. To be blind doesn't help.

Finally, what is wrong, or what has it to do with left or right, to defend yourself in your home, when attacked ? When I studied law in France it was even a presumption of rightful conduct if you killed a burglar in your own premisses during the night : a presumption of having acted in self defence, to be precise. Is France a fascist State ?

Which other country would you label as being on the brink of fascism if it doesn't want to submit with the IMF recommendations ? That said, the IMF was created for a specific role, to help manage the fixed-change regime decided in Bretton Woods, but the gold-exchange standard no longer exist thanks to Nixon. Why can't a international bureaucracy not dissolve itself when it's mission is over ?

I wonder if the Spiegel covers the take-over of the State by the French socialist now in power, how they changed a lot of the hight ranking civil servants to put socialists in their place. How the whole National Education is, since the 1980's (it started before) a bastion of the left, to mould our fellow citizens.

And the Hungarian born economist, living in France, wrote a few month ago, since few people know the difficult Hungarian language, they all depends on the interpretations of the facts from the Hungarian intellectuals, largely from the left, and far from impartial.

Please, cease giving your readers such a false notion of Hungary under a center-right elected government. I don't approve a lot of what Orban does, especially his economic policy, but that doesn't make him nor his friends a cripto facist. Far from that.

[andre79799]

From the famous Hungarian expats list in the article – who in their unexplainable rage making their life-end reason d'etre to bad mouth Hungary and Hungarians -another illustrious person is woefully missing. Please permit me to add his name to the list and elaborate. He is Ákos Kertész, (not to mix him up with his namesake Imre Kertész).

For his literary efforts, singing praises of the glorious communism Ákos Kertész was lavished with the following (undeserved) Hungarian accolades:

SZOT Price, Attila József Price, Award of Literature Publishing House, Book of the Year Award, The Art Fund Prize for Literature, The Order of Merit of the Hungarian Republic, János Arany Price, My Homeland’s Award, Honorary Citizen of Budapest, The Middle Cross of the Hungarian Order of Merit, Kossuth Price.

In return, Ákos Kertész in (a pinko-chrypto communist rag) a Hungarian publication in the USA, the “Amerikai Népszava” 2012 March 2 edition in an open letter states (I am using direct Hungarian quote here with English translation):

Ákos Kertész:
“… Percemberkék. A jelenben élnek, akár az állatok. A valóságos állatokra gondolok, vagyis ez nem erkölcsi ítélet, egyszerű ténymegállapítás…….
… A magyar genetikusan alattvaló …
... boldogan dagonyázik a diktatúra pocsolyájában, röfög és zabálja a moslékot..

Translation:
“… (The Hungarians) are minuteman. They live in the present, just like animals. And I am refereeing to real animals. This is not a moral judgment but the facts…
… The Hungarians are genetically inferiors…
… they happily wallow in the dictatorship’s puddle grunting while gobble up the pigswill …”
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As for Zsolt Balyer’s article in the right-wing newspaper Magyar Hirlap daring to criticize the minority roma criminal elements, to get the whole picture one has to understand the uncontrolled, unacknowledged, denied roma terror swept under the rug that Hungarians have to endure without complaining.

Not an isolated case, just prior to Zsolt Balyer’s critique, two old Hungarian pensioners brothers were victims of the denied, supposedly non-existent, lily white washed roma crime wave. Two old Hungarians living their poverty-stricken life in their rather poorly furnished house were robbed. Both brothers were hard of hearing, they could not afford hearing aid. They did not hear the thieves when they broke in during an early January night. The following night the roma duo returned. This time they were looking for cash. They beat up the two old Hungarians with pipes. One of them was beaten to death on the spot, the other old Hungarian other ended up in hospital only halve beaten to death. They had a grand total of 700 forint cash at hand, which is about 2.29 Euro!

[andre79799]

To follow up on my previous post, in Hungary, news of roma atrocities are muffled, white washed and rarely if ever get through the liberal (vestiges survived and thriving from the old communist) system constructed filters to reach the West. Just two examples of roma atrocities from the many, Hungarians have to endure without complain because if they as much they dare to open their mouth they are right away blamed as neo fascist Nazis, racist anti-Semites.

But on with my two true stories.

In Gadna, a sleepy hamlet in North East Hungary a 21 years old roma guy broke into an 88 years old Hungarian lady’s home who was living alone. The roma beat and repeatedly raped her. She had knife stab wounds on her back and her naked body bore other life threatening injuries, her eyes were gouged out. According to coroner’s report one of her leg at knee was hacked off with an ax while she was still alive. As a coup de grâce the roma split her head with the ax and left the ax in her skull. About 9000 forint = 30.65 Euro worth of old household items were stolen.

Second satanic horror story happened in Tápióbicske a small settlement close to Budapest. Two roma women befriended a Hungarian lady with her daughter. The roma bit by bit moved in, took over the Hungarians' home, made virtual slaves of the mother and grown up daughter. The two helpless victims were beaten, tortured, nailed to the wall, hanged by chain, and burned with red hot embers. Near to the end of their two months ordeal, the Hungarian mother was beaten with a broom until the broomstick broke on her back. Then with the broken end of the broomstick she was raped. She died from agonizing internal injuries and unimagined pain she received through her private parts.

Now the matter of dual Israeli – Hungarian citizenship.

For their proportion there are far too many Hungarian Jews in the country’s administration holding key positions and in the Hungarian parliament itself. Not only that they hold double citizenship and alliance to another country but they want to keep it as a secret, organize demonstrations, crying wolf as they just did when someone challenges them.

Let us see what are the rules in the Israeli Knesset itself about dual citizenship of a KM:

“…Article 16A: Non-declaration due to dual citizenship

16A. If a Knesset member holds an additional, non-Israeli citizenship, and the laws of the country whose citizenship he holds permit him to be released from such citizenship, he shall not declare allegiance until after he has done everything required on his part to be released from such citizenship, and he shall not enjoy the rights of a Knesset member until he makes his declaration…”

“…Article 42: Termination of Tenure or Candidacy

…..The legal advisor suggested that the constitution must detail all the cases in which the service of an MK ends, be it because of a criminal conviction, a suspension or any other reason including refusal to pledge allegiance or to renounce another country’s citizenship…”

Please make your own just judgment.

[andre79799]

Dual Israeli – Hungarian citizenship in the Hungarian parliament.

Let us see what are the exact rules in the Israeli Knesset itself about dual citizenship of its MK’s.

Article 16A: Non-declaration due to dual citizenship

“16A. If a Knesset member holds an additional, non-Israeli citizenship, and the laws of the country whose citizenship he holds permit him to be released from such citizenship, he shall not declare allegiance until after he has done everything required on his part to be released from such citizenship, and he shall not enjoy the rights of a Knesset member until he makes his declaration…”

Article 42: Termination of Tenure or Candidacy

“…..The legal advisor suggested that the constitution must detail all the cases in which the service of an MK ends, be it because of a criminal conviction, a suspension or any other reason including refusal to pledge allegiance or to renounce another country’s citizenship…”