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Old 08.08.2012, 09:52   #1
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Default Fanning The Flames of the Euro Crisis: Europe's 10 Most Dangerous Politicians

The tone in the euro debate is becoming more aggressive. Bavarian Finance Minister Markus Söder said on Sunday that Greece must be 'made an example of.' Politicians in other countries are resorting to similarly provocative rhetoric. Ten populists are whipping up sentiment -- and thereby worsening the crisis.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...848762,00.html
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Old 08.08.2012, 12:13   #2
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To call politicians dangerous because they do not accept a weak Euro is rather stupid! A common currency is bound to fail when the partaking member states all have different Tax, health, employment and pension arrangements.
Many older Germans have twice experienced a complete loss of the value of their savings. Now it seems the government of the country, without any necessity, cannot wait until the same thing happens again.
Within the last year alone, the Euro has lost 25% of its buying power in comparison to the Pound Sterling. An interest rate of just 0.5 / 3.5 % does not even cover the rise in cost of basic essentials. It would not be unwise for Germany to suspend the use of the Euro as a currency, until such time as the needed basic common denominator for European money has been found.
One cannot expect German employees to work until they are 67 years of age, in order to finance the pensions in other countries where retirement can occur as early as the age of 49.
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Old 08.08.2012, 13:08   #3
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To be clear I'm happy when we can have and keep one euro, but for those populists it was easy shooting last years. What a mess did we make out of it. By ignoring important cultural parameters in Europe.

Not because of those populists, but I think a major decission has to be made after September: Either we do really integrate at a European level by introducing Eurobonds etc. By this we do accept the risks concerning the economy and attitudes of the South of Europe, and by that the criticism of the Nothern populists.
Or we do split up the euro in one for the north and a then devaluated one for the south, but with return possibilities when being neuro-proof which will take more than 25 years or 2 generations. And by that the criticism of the South populists.

I do choose for the last option.
Because it's more solid.
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Old 08.08.2012, 15:55   #4
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Default Europe's 10 most Dangerous Politicians

Spiegel...

If you believe that the ten politicians whose pictures you show, are the most dangerous in Europe then that's your judgement and you are fully entitled to make it.

Why then do you use the prejorative word " populist " to describe those with whom you obviously disagree?
You are not alone, many of the left wing press and virtually all the Europhile press in the UK, use words like this to describe the 'hated' Eurosceptic.

They are of course, meant to denigrate but I find that depending who uses them, words like 'populist' tend to attract rather than repel.
After all, it only takes a few minutes to read an article or listen to a speech, and I may learn something.
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Old 08.08.2012, 20:28   #5
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The most dangerous politicians are the one who still think that the EU and the Euro are a good idea.

Thankfully Britain will be leaving the EU within a few short years and the sooner the better. We prefer our laws to be made in our own Parliament by our own MPs. We do not like our laws to be made in brussels by a Commission which we can neither elect nor remove at the ballot box.

Peter Mandelson, an ex-communist, ex-Labour MP and ex-Commissioner said that we are now moving towards a post democratic age. I think we have been there before. This is a most sinister statement coming from an ex-communist like Mandelson. He was referring to the system of government we have in the EU where the voice of the people counts for nothing. Welcome to the EUSSR.

At the EU elections in 2014, Nigel Farage's party, UKIP, is expected to get a majority of the votes increasing the numbers of 'dangerous' politicians in the EU parliament. If you don't like what Farage says then may I ask that you campaign to eject Britain from the EU. Our politicians will not be very pleased but the people will be delighted.
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Old 08.08.2012, 21:52   #6
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Was ist der Sinn davon? Warum nicht auflisten Menschen, die sich für die Euro-Krise schuld sind?
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Old 09.08.2012, 23:59   #7
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Britain will leave the EU so Nigel Farage,whom you label as dangerous, will no longer bother you. There will be more like Farage after the 2014 european elections when the British people give Farage a majority at the ballot box.

If you do'nt like Mr Farage then help the British people to get out of the EU. Our politicians are afraid to give us a referendum because they know what the result will be. However we will leave. The only question is 'when'.
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Old 11.08.2012, 18:24   #8
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The tone in the euro debate is becoming more aggressive. Bavarian Finance Minister Markus Söder said on Sunday that Greece must be 'made an example of.' Politicians in other countries are resorting to similarly provocative rhetoric. Ten populists are whipping up sentiment -- and thereby worsening the crisis.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...848762,00.html
This is a despicable hit piece if I've ever seen one. The Euro has driven millions into poverty and unemployment, is threatening welfare systems and pension funds and yet some people want to continue it? What sociopathy is that?

The real 'most dangerous' people are people like these:
1. Draghi - a Goldman Sachs stooge who said he was willing to 'do anything' to save the Euro, and thus is willing to impoverish everybody and abolish democracy in order to do it
2. Monti - another Goldman Sachs stooge who wants other countries to have to cut tens of billions in social security, healthcare etc... in order to give handouts to Italy.
3. Van Rompuy - seldom have I encountered such an arrogant type of politician who frequently states that 'now is not the time for democracy'. And why wouldn't he? After all, the number one goal of the EU is to abolish national democracy.
4. Rajoy - like Monti wants other countries to cut billions in social security and healthcare to bail out bankrupt Spanish regions and banks, mainly the Caixa's that are used for cozy retirement jobs for PP and PSE politicians.
5. Steinbrück - the representative of those who want to bankrupt Germany and sign up for hundreds of billions of Euros of permanent transfers, and who wants to inflict massive increase of borrowing costs on German taxpayers because his solidarity lies with the undemocratic EuroSoviet Union ahead of the German people.
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Old 12.08.2012, 12:03   #9
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A more interesting list would be: who were fifteen years ago the ten most dangerous politicians in Europe, based on what we know today? Can "Der Spiegel" please make the exercise?
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Old 12.08.2012, 20:08   #10
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Default Europe's Most Dangerous Politicians: Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, David Cameron

Europe's Most Dangerous Politicians: Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, David Cameron, Jean-Claude Juncker, Jose Barroso, Mario Monti, Herman Van Rompuy
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogsp...liticians.html
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